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I kind of wish this quiz was a little more clear. What does it mean that "spirituality" is important to me, exactly? How are my ideals mostly spiritual? It's that word, "spiritual." What is it, exactly? The definition is:
And those synonyms at "immaterial" are:
I assume it's the second part we're talking about here. So that means my ideals are mostly relating to the not-tangible or material and relating to the soul, or a deity, but in an individualistic way. I'm not sure exactly how that works. I'm not ready to say it's not true, because it sounds somehow correct, it's just weird that I can't really explain it to myself.
I used to think "spiritual" meant lacking the discipline to be religious, actually. Then I hung out for a long time on a Native American board where they made this distinction all the time, but in a positive sense, like spirituality was better than religion-though you could have both. One didn't contradict the other, it was just that you probably didn't want to have religion without spirituality.
Other people seem to agree with this definition, though. That is, I've been told more than once that people thought I was "spiritual" while not being "religious." I feel kind of weird writing that, like I'm saying, "Well, I am, of course, a very deep person, though I'm beyond such petty things as religion." It's just that really, it is one of those things that's fairly consistent--I guess for the mundane reason that I am relatively interested in religion. Actually, I almost minored in it in college; I had the credits to do so. But at the same time I felt like I couldn't because despite my taking classes in it, I honestly didn't feel like I got most religions at all. (Seriously, it's embarassing just how much effort I have put into understanding Islam to be completely ignorant about it and its sects. Perhaps this is also true of the creator of this quiz, who has left Islam off completely...?) I think sometimes I feel like the more you get into a specific religion, the more you get into man-made busywork. If it doesn't mean anything to you you might as well be studying Pokeman canon.
I guess that's the one thing that's kind of refreshing about Paganism, because most Pagans are so very aware of exactly that. Many of them already see themselves as practically different sects in a fandom--which can be a good thing or a bad thing, of course. I certainly like the crowd I'm hanging out nearby on the little quiz grid, right by the humanists and the atheists. Not that I don't like the people in the other areas, just it seems like I'd probably have to have these guys as neighbors.
I sort of wanted to do the icon meme, which I've been somehow unable to answer every time I see it on other ljs, but realized that it was probably silly given my icons.:-)
gramayre1971. You fit in with: Spiritualism Your ideals are mostly spiritual, but in an individualistic way. While spirituality is very important in your life, organized religion itself may not be for you. It is best for you to seek these things on your own terms. 40% spiritual. 40% reason-oriented. |
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I kind of wish this quiz was a little more clear. What does it mean that "spirituality" is important to me, exactly? How are my ideals mostly spiritual? It's that word, "spiritual." What is it, exactly? The definition is:
1.Of, relating to, consisting of, or having the nature of spirit; not tangible or material. See Synonyms at immaterial.
2.Of, concerned with, or affecting the soul.
3.Of, from, or relating to God; deific.
4.Of or belonging to a church or religion; sacred.
5.Relating to or having the nature of spirits or a spirit; supernatural.
And those synonyms at "immaterial" are:
1.Of no importance or relevance; inconsequential or irrelevant.
2.Having no material body or form.
I assume it's the second part we're talking about here. So that means my ideals are mostly relating to the not-tangible or material and relating to the soul, or a deity, but in an individualistic way. I'm not sure exactly how that works. I'm not ready to say it's not true, because it sounds somehow correct, it's just weird that I can't really explain it to myself.
I used to think "spiritual" meant lacking the discipline to be religious, actually. Then I hung out for a long time on a Native American board where they made this distinction all the time, but in a positive sense, like spirituality was better than religion-though you could have both. One didn't contradict the other, it was just that you probably didn't want to have religion without spirituality.
Other people seem to agree with this definition, though. That is, I've been told more than once that people thought I was "spiritual" while not being "religious." I feel kind of weird writing that, like I'm saying, "Well, I am, of course, a very deep person, though I'm beyond such petty things as religion." It's just that really, it is one of those things that's fairly consistent--I guess for the mundane reason that I am relatively interested in religion. Actually, I almost minored in it in college; I had the credits to do so. But at the same time I felt like I couldn't because despite my taking classes in it, I honestly didn't feel like I got most religions at all. (Seriously, it's embarassing just how much effort I have put into understanding Islam to be completely ignorant about it and its sects. Perhaps this is also true of the creator of this quiz, who has left Islam off completely...?) I think sometimes I feel like the more you get into a specific religion, the more you get into man-made busywork. If it doesn't mean anything to you you might as well be studying Pokeman canon.
I guess that's the one thing that's kind of refreshing about Paganism, because most Pagans are so very aware of exactly that. Many of them already see themselves as practically different sects in a fandom--which can be a good thing or a bad thing, of course. I certainly like the crowd I'm hanging out nearby on the little quiz grid, right by the humanists and the atheists. Not that I don't like the people in the other areas, just it seems like I'd probably have to have these guys as neighbors.
I sort of wanted to do the icon meme, which I've been somehow unable to answer every time I see it on other ljs, but realized that it was probably silly given my icons.:-)
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And now I'm curious, what is that icon meme?
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Icon meme
Take a look at my icons. Comment with the following:
1. One that makes you automatically think of me.
2. One that you think I should TOTALLY use more often.
3. One that you don't get / needs more explanation / you have no idea why the hell I have it.
Comment using an icon of yours that you LOVE, and tell me why you picked THAT one.
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However, since you've put it up:
One that makes you automatically think of me.
Dude, all the magpie-ones (which is almost all of them), the Chinese-sign ones, and the nun-doll one (perhaps that one more than others, since I think you figured in a dream of mine once, looking exactly like that doll :D).
One that you think I should TOTALLY use more often.
Apperently I can't link them, but the "Boo"-one is cool, you should totally use that more often.
One that you don't get / needs more explanation / you have no idea why the hell I have it.
.... Well... maybe the "Proust Goya"-one?
I love and get tired of all my icons, but I think this is the favourite right now. The image captures the way some people in this fandom sees the author so well, and I also have a special fondness of icons with text I've dictated. Since I can't do icons yet, that's the only way I'll feel even the tiniest bit responsible. ;-)
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Apperently I can't link them, but the "Boo"-one is cool, you should totally use that more often.
Cool-that's good to know. Though I will be using the default on this comment because I'm not logged in yet.
.... Well... maybe the "Proust Goya"-one?
LOL--stupid reason. I wanted something for
Your icon is particularly fabulous, of course.:-)
I just thought of another picture I have that I might use for Proust...
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You fit in with:
Agnosticism
Your ideals mostly resemble those of an Agnostic. You are fairly ambivalent towards any religion or spiritual connection. You lead a very busy life and find that religion and spirituality are unnecessary to your life.
0% scientific.
20% reason-oriented.
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While I have no problem with where the test locate me on the axis, the comment just reads like an insult- what do you mean by spirituality is unnecessary in my life and that I'm 0% scientific?!
As for the icon meme, I like your magpie-doll one the best, I think. And I've never quite understood the Neville one...
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As for the icon meme, I like your magpie-doll one the best, I think. And I've never quite understood the Neville one...
I do love that doll.
The Neville one is just that that magpie reminds me a little of Neville because he's kind of dumpy looking to me. I used to call it "Magpie on a rock."
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Also, from looking at the chart, "0% scientific" apparently really means "50% scientific".
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That'd be much more probable. I mean, it's totally possible to be both scientific and spiritual. It's not like they necessary contradict each other--a fact that has, unfortunately, escaped great many people.
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Your icons? I like most of them. There are a couple of softer paintings that are nice, and the nun doll.
Okay, so I'll use the pic of me at three. Just because this isn't a Harry Potter post, and I used to be a cute kid. And, you just don't see Tom Thumb weddings any more.
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That icon is so cute. Especially when it's next to the name
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I totally adore your doll icon. Also, 'Two for joy of talking' is cool. Have you used it much? I don't remember.
I'll use my new Elizabeth icon, because I'm a huge Jane Austen fan and the icon is nice.
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That Elizabeth is fabulous-I love the colors in it. I'm using my Two for Joy icon because it's pretty new and I haven't gotten to use it a lot yet.
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Took an age to get them right. I'm not exactly a professional when it comes to Photoshop.
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You fit in with:
Humanism
Your ideals mostly resemble that of a Humanist. Although you do not have a lot of faith, you are devoted to making this world better, in the short time that you have to live. Humanists do not generally believe in an afterlife, and therefore, are committed to making the world a better place for themselves and future generations.
20% scientific.
60% reason-oriented.
Take this quiz at QuizGalaxy.com
I like my result. :)
As for the icons, I totally love the doll one and the rant (the one in which the magpie seems to be yelling at you/me) one. ;)
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Although it's inappropriate, I will use my rant icon here anyway.
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I really love my little nun, though. Not that she's really mine--I found the picture on the 'net somewhere. She's standing in front of a gravestone too!
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I consider myself to be agnostic (came out as humanist, though), and my reaction to at least half of the questions were, "what do you mean I have to choose between those? Neither, I choose neither!", and I disagree with the quizmaker's map, but I liked the way the different results was described.
I think Islam, if put on this map, would overlap several others, at least Judaism/Chr and Fundamentalism both? I have this nagging feeling that it's possible Fundamentalism is meant to stand in for Islam though.
Your comment about spiritualism vs religions was very interesting. I have to confess that I usually use "spiritualism" as shorthand for either victorian ouija-bord charlatans, new age anything, or you know, Trelawny people. Which is plain stupid compared to the idea conveyed in your Native American board. And very far from how I see you.
When looking at the parameters on this map, I find that I agree more with my point on the map, if I consider what I value more rather than what I agree with or believe in or are.
- Clara
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I'm going to check out that other site. These things are addictive.
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Had a look at the US politics chart, and Ralph Nader was hanging out with Gandi and Dalai Lama too. Isn't that the guy who got blamed for "stealing" Gore votes and putting W. in power? But who is Walt Brown? I need to pay more attention to foreign politics.
Have you ever read "Strong Poison" by Dorothy L. Sayers? If you have, the sections with Miss Climpson and the nurse, that's what pops into my mind at "spiritualism" ;-)
- Clara
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I have read it--I think that's what I'm thinking of too when I hear the word.
Had a look at the US politics chart, and Ralph Nader was hanging out with Gandi and Dalai Lama too. Isn't that the guy who got blamed for "stealing" Gore votes and putting W. in power? But who is Walt Brown? I need to pay more attention to foreign politics.
Ralph Nader is definitely that guy.:-) Walt Brown was the presidential candidate for the Socialist Party in the 2004 election. (Not somebody most people are likely to know!)
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30% spiritual.
60% reason-oriented.
I couldn't decide on answers for all the questions, though, which might skew it.
This icon meme irritates me, just because I can't bear to keep mine more than a few days. I'd like to have a bunch of regular ones that I could associate with me, but 15 is just too many, really... I don't love any of them!
The Monet one reminds me of you, though.
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Actually, I have that picture in my office and somebody came in recently and mistakenly thought it was a picture from the magazine. He was like, "This is a really good illustration. Why don't we use this illustrator more often? Who is it?" Looks at signature. "Oh. It's Monet and I'm a philistine."
I told him really he just showed his good taste since he could figure out it was good without somebody saying it was Monet.
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(And - um - they actually list "scientology" as if that was a serious outlook on life? :Q )
Anyway, I got spirituality, for whatever reason. :roll:
You fit in with:
Spiritualism
Your ideals are mostly spiritual, but in an individualistic way. While spirituality is very important in your life, organized religion itself may not be for you. It is best for you to seek these things on your own terms.
40% spiritual.
60% reason-oriented.
Take this quiz at QuizGalaxy.com
Not much use for me to do the icon game, as I always use the same, but, Magpie, of your icons anything with magpies in it is most suitable (surprise ;) ), and what I'd like to see more often is the painting with the magpie on the gate in winter (or something like that), which I've seen her use once so far - I don't know who painted it, but I've seen it somewhere ages ago and bought a postcard of it - very nice picture. :)
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I looked it up, it's in the Musée d'Orsay in Paris, so I haven't seen it in its museum - no idea where I've seen it then, but it's awesome! :D
LOL--I admit I was dying to know exactly what one would have to answer to come out as a scientologist.
LOL, you certainly would have had to answer the question "have you ever doubted your religion" with "no"! :P ;)
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I shared Clara's frustration with this quiz. None of the questions seemed to have the "I don't know the answer to that—and
neither do you!" option which of course, as an agnostic, I found
myself wanting to give more often than not. :)
Some of the questions also seemed to me to be rooted in a very specifically Christian paradigm. "Do you believe that your own redemption lies in your own hands or those of a superior power," for example. I found that question really difficult to answer, because outside of the context of Christianity, I'm not even altogether sure what "redemption" is supposed to mean. I mean, obviously I understand how the word is used colloquially, but its colloquial usage isn't really applicable to the question (in colloquial usage, after all, people are always said to "redeem themselves").
"Until what age did you believe in the Easter bunny?" was another rather telling one. I have yet to meet a non-Christian who ever believed in the Easter bunny. Santa Claus, perhaps. But the Easter bunny? Er, no.
I adore the nun doll icon, because it really really scares me.
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"Until what age did you believe in the Easter bunny?" was another rather telling one. I have yet to meet a non-Christian who ever believed in the Easter bunny. Santa Claus, perhaps. But the Easter bunny? Er, no.
Those were the two that really jumped out at me too. How do you answer those questions as a Buddhist? Especially the redemption one. The Easter Bunny you can substitute with the childhood belief of your choice, I guess, but the concept of redemption is pretty meaningless outside of Christianity.
I adore the nun doll icon, because it really really scares me.
LOL! I love it when it scares people. You are not alone.
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Actually, the answers came out better than I expected...sort of. Although I rather liked it saying that I "have Spirituality [whatever that means] as the most important thing in my life, strive to live by all of my ideals, and live a very intellectually focused life," I'm sort of at a loss as to how that makes me a Buddhist Taoist. Christian agnostic all the way, here. :-)
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I guess that means you would get along with Buddhist Taoists, despite not being one...?