I think it's equally too simple to assume that someone having a chance of heart about being a DE must mean one has become any sort of guy at all, including a good one. I can think of plenty of reasons to not be a DE while still being a bad person--maybe even a worse person who just sees the drawbacks of being a DE.
I'm not sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing with what I said, here. Why? Because you say my assertion depends, but then you talk about convenience ("sees drawbacks") as a factor of why a former DE might defect from the DE club.
There I would disagree--I'd imagine, for instance, that many former Hitler Youth grew into good people. If someone truly changes their bad ideas into good ones, I'd judge them on what they became rather than what they were in the past. Someone willing to exterminate a whole race can't be good, but someone who once did I think could be.
Even as I wrote the statement about the eternal evil of NAZIs I remembered American History X, where a fervent neonazi has a very real change of heart. However, since I was talking about willing Nazis and not about brainwashed, misguided youth, or FORMER not-any-more-it's-all-in-the-past-not-just-because-Hitler-died nazis, I decided that my statement was valid.
Sure, someone who was formerly DE could be good now, but someone who is currently DE cannot be good now.
Those who are DE are evil, and will always be evil, if they remain within the DE circle. I don't think that's controvertible. Unless you can provide me with the name of a kind DE, or a kind Nazi, or a kind Slave owner, or a good pro-apartheid European. All people who are for the elimination and/or subjugation of another race, just like DE's, are evil, in a generalized manner. Sure, many of those may be antiheroic, admirable in a very fucked up way, and attractive, but they are morally pernicious.
By the way, I absolutely adore Voldemort. Talk about inexcusable and irredeemable.
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I'm not sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing with what I said, here. Why? Because you say my assertion depends, but then you talk about convenience ("sees drawbacks") as a factor of why a former DE might defect from the DE club.
There I would disagree--I'd imagine, for instance, that many former Hitler Youth grew into good people. If someone truly changes their bad ideas into good ones, I'd judge them on what they became rather than what they were in the past. Someone willing to exterminate a whole race can't be good, but someone who once did I think could be.
Even as I wrote the statement about the eternal evil of NAZIs I remembered American History X, where a fervent neonazi has a very real change of heart. However, since I was talking about willing Nazis and not about brainwashed, misguided youth, or FORMER not-any-more-it's-all-in-the-past-not-just-because-Hitler-died nazis, I decided that my statement was valid.
Sure, someone who was formerly DE could be good now, but someone who is currently DE cannot be good now.
Those who are DE are evil, and will always be evil, if they remain within the DE circle. I don't think that's controvertible. Unless you can provide me with the name of a kind DE, or a kind Nazi, or a kind Slave owner, or a good pro-apartheid European. All people who are for the elimination and/or subjugation of another race, just like DE's, are evil, in a generalized manner. Sure, many of those may be antiheroic, admirable in a very fucked up way, and attractive, but they are morally pernicious.
By the way, I absolutely adore Voldemort. Talk about inexcusable and irredeemable.