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sistermagpie ([personal profile] sistermagpie) wrote2008-02-15 02:36 pm
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Inconsistent Magic in HP Part 23: How Wands Work Now

OMG, I'm writing about Deathly Hallows. Because I was having this conversation about something in it that really bugged me. So this is about something I didn't like in DH. If you are bummed out by the negative, don't irritate yourself by clicking this

By the end of the series, we have two different and contradictory explanations for how Wands work with Wizards--and now I think about it, those explanations reflect an ambivalence already present in the series.

The very first book establishes the substitution of magic for school. Harry will go to school just like the reader, but he learns magic instead of other subjects. Which is fine, but sometimes leads to a little canonical confusion between "smart" and "magically adept." When Hermione does Transfiguration on the first day of class we understand she's a good student even though wand movement is more physical than mental. In OotP, iirc, there's a conversation with a Ravenclaw in the DA where he asks why Hermione isn't in that house when she's doing NEWT level magic--again, we've never seen that being a primarily mental process. Although there are some vague references to theory or esoteric knowledge that Dumbledore has but can't explain, and things to memorize, Harry never really encounters anything beyond magic as a physical skill.

This question of brains vs. skills carries over to Wands. Which one eventually dominates? In the end, are they tools of learning or tools of battle? The answer: tools of battle. Are they like a violin or like a sword? They are like a sword.

We got the first explanation of how wands work back in PS/SS. That's where Harry's wand chooses him and we hear its particulars: It is made of holly and has a phoenix feather core. The affinity for Harry comes from the qualities of the wood and core, and the folklore and fictional connections with each one. We hear James' wand was good at Transfiguration, a clue to his being an Animagus. Lily's was good at Charms--her protection of Harry was presumably a Charm. It was another one of those built-in personality tests. Who can say if holly is a nicer wood than maple? Nobody, really, it's personal taste. Everyone is different but everyone has a wand meant for them.

Unfortunately, this goes out the window in DH when Ollivander introducers the startling idea that in fact a wand becomes "yours" if you win it from someone else in a duel, either by yanking it from them or blasting it away from them or just beating them up and taking it. Iow, whatever hints we've gotten about love or learning, it's about power. Wands instinctively "bend their wills" to the person who's the most dominating physically and magically. If someone has beaten you, your wand--that thing that's been like an extention of yourself--is no longer yours!

These two ideas are contradictory and can't both be true, and in DH it's made clear that it's the domination idea that is the true one, otherwise the story wouldn't work. (So much for that Muggleborn's tearful, "But it's my wand! It chose me!" line--it's chosen Umbridge now, lady, if she took it from you.) It's a shame, actually, because with just a little tweaking JKR could have saved the original idea. She could have said that only the *Elder Wand* (the one already uniquely created to dominate others) bent to the will of he who won it. It could have been done with little changes to the story, saved the former ideas about Wands, and avoided questions like why Ollivander thinks he knows who any Wand belongs to after it leaves his store.

But that's not what happened. Instead we have all these careful scenes showing us how Harry can't work with the blackthorn wand (does he even struggle a little with Hermione's freely lent one?), but can work with Draco's because he yanked it out of his hand and thereby won it by physically besting him. Wood and core ultimately mean nothing at all. If they did, then in the scene where Harry shows Ollivander the Wands he's brought from Malfoy Manor Ollivander wouldn't have been going on about how the wand no longer belongs to Draco because Harry won it.

If we stayed with the original idea he should have been talking about wood and core and things like that--Harry's wand was made of holly; Draco's is hawthorn; Harry's has a phoenix feather core; Draco's has a unicorn hair core. How, if as we were originally told, the wood and core are in sympathy with the Wizard, could Harry be expected to use this one easily? Well, he could if Ollivander had just said something like "This wand will never be right for you, but it could be a lot worse. The Wand might feel more cold or detached than your regular one because of the unicorn tail, and you'll probably have to cast spells with more force than your used to in order to compensate for the hawthorn wood. To someone with an affinity for holly, that wood may feel contradictory and less focused. It will feel "lighter" in general, so be careful you don't overdo it."

Or whatever. Had that happened Harry probably still could have used it to win the battle. Draco would still be the Master of the Elder wand because *that* Wand only recognizes that kind of brute force, and Harry would still be the one who defeated him no matter what Wand he was using. He just would have beat Voldemort while struggling to work with a wand that would never truly be his or feel as good as his own for him. (Of course, I can't help but already worry that's getting into dangerous territory, as if Harry is somehow learning to work with Malfoy rather than more satisfyingly dominating him and having his wand like him better.)

It would have been preferable to me personally, though. I far prefer the original idea that Wands are tools of learning that reflect each person's personal experience and the wisdom they gained through it to the one where Wands are phallic weapons turned on by the best fighter, who then just gets to choose which one to use based on whether they prefer kicking ass with a .44 Magnum or a .38 special. Certainly I think this is a hell of a thing to toss in as if it's something only somebody well-versed in Wand-lore would know, when this is the kind of information Wizards would consider hugely important and have noticed immediately.
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2008-02-15 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL! I know! That's the other huge problem--wait, you mean basically nobody owns their own wand? Even if you think that picking your wand right up again is the same as taking it back, you have to wonder why people don't just go around stealing peoples' wands all the time so that they'll screw up.

Also doesn't Harry end the book with the odd notion that if he dies a natural death the wand won't have any master? Harry's an auror. Anybody who gets his wand at any time for the rest of his life will be its master, won't they? WTF?

[identity profile] arclevel.livejournal.com 2008-02-15 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, that was my argument for why Harry couldn't possibly go on to be an Auror. Even if we just take this dominance nonsense to apply to the Elder Wand and no other, if he were *EVER* bested by one of the dark wizards he was fighting, even if only briefly, the Elder Wand would belong to the dark wizard. Even without that, even if it was just dying a natural death, then the chances of that happening are severely reduced if he's an Auror, and he knows it. If he's at all serious about ending the power of the Elder Wand, he'd basically need to avoid serious magical or physical confrontation for the rest of his life -- good luck with that, Harry!! (I figure that the 'dominance' aspect would still allow him to do things like teach at Hogwarts or play with his kids because even if they disarmed him, he'd still presumably be in control the whole time.)

[identity profile] slinkhard.livejournal.com 2008-02-16 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
if he were *EVER* bested by one of the dark wizards he was fighting, even if only briefly

Don't forget, though, this is a future envisioned by JKR. As if Harry will ever be bested, even once.

[identity profile] go-back-chief.livejournal.com 2008-02-16 12:35 pm (UTC)(link)
In other words, Stu-ness will protect Harry more than any wand ever could. It is the power the dark lord knows not. ;-)

[identity profile] cmwinters.livejournal.com 2008-02-19 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
What I don't understand is why they don't just *break* the damned thing???
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[personal profile] arcanetrivia 2008-02-19 11:10 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly my thought! Break it, burn it! Something! Maybe it's speshul and can't be broken, but if so, that seems a quality definitely important enough to mention.

[identity profile] arclevel.livejournal.com 2008-02-16 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah! Silly me, how could I forget that part?!? No, Harry will be the most perfectest Auror ever to live, and all shall love him and look upon him with awe.

[identity profile] professor-mum.livejournal.com 2008-02-16 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
That's the other huge problem--wait, you mean basically nobody owns their own wand? Even if you think that picking your wand right up again is the same as taking it back, you have to wonder why people don't just go around stealing peoples' wands all the time so that they'll screw up.

Indeed! And yes, with just a bit of clever tweaking she could have put these two wand key issues (choice versus power) into compliance with one another. They didn't have to be at odds with one another --- any decent fanfic-er could have sorted this out.

Friggin' wands....

[identity profile] cmwinters.livejournal.com 2008-02-19 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
See . . . and I *try* to make this make sense. Snape disarmed Lockhart in CoS, then that makes Snape the master of Lockhart's wand, and because Lupin disarmed Harry in PoA, then Lupin must be the master of Harry's wand, but then Snape was disarmed by Harry almost immediately after that by Harry, Ron & Hermione, so that makes the Trio the masters (and mistress) of Snape's wand, only, does that make Lupin the master of Snape's wand? Because he'd just disarmed Harry? And how did Lucius' wand show any "allegiance" to the Dark Lord when Lucius (more or less) freely gave it to the Dark Lord, but Harry had trouble with Hermione's wand (that he wasn't the master of)?

I mean, by this logic, Harry should be the master of Lockhart's wand. It makes as much sense as Harry being the master of the ELDER wand!

Gah. I'm going to have to stop thinking about this because it's going to make me upset all over again.

*facedesk*

But remember, I need to "just read it again so I'll 'get' it". *S-C-R-E-A-M*
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[personal profile] arcanetrivia 2008-02-19 11:12 am (UTC)(link)
Don't try. It'll save you blood pressure and headaches. *hands you aspirin*

I had to read Harry's speech like six times before I thought I understood what in blazes he was talking about (and thus, what JKR was meaning us to understand had happened). I say "thought" because I'm still not sure I've gotten to the bottom of it. I just wanted to understand enough to get on to the end of the book.

[identity profile] professor-mum.livejournal.com 2008-02-21 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I will likely never read B7 again even though Jo does claim it is "all there on the page". If folks like you and I don't get it, it's a problem even if she refuses to face it.

Jo could have handled the wand disconnect by describing the Elder Wand "virtually unbeatable in the right hands as the wand chooses the wizard". This would short-cicuit all the ownership logic issues you describe above which cascade back to B1.

So answer me this: why did RAB go to the Cave on a certain suicide mission with no concrete Horcrux destruction plans? Was it because he objected to the way Voldemort was using his house elf? Didn't his Mum behead the little buggers when they outgrew their usefulness? Is this explanation right there on the page?

Bah...

[identity profile] cmwinters.livejournal.com 2008-02-22 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, did you catch this? All HRH had to do was "be nice" to Kreacher to win his instantaneous and unbreakable loyalty, even though Hermione was nice to him the entire damned time, and the Malfoys *AND* Blacks were known to be abusive to their house elves, but Narcissa was the only one Kreacher respected.

*FACEDESK*
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2008-02-22 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Argh! That drove me crazy. Kreacher went from a person to a lower form of intelligence in between books. Hermione was nice to him and Kreacher said, "Why is the Mudblood talking to me?" Suddenly everything that looked like Kreacher acting like a Mrs. Danvers-type servant it turns out all they have to do is be nice to him. So why on earth didn't he like Hermione before??

Also it's infuriating the way this is pretty much the only place in the book we get the idea that nasty people could become your friend with some effort. you don't have to put in the effort with actual people, there's this ridiculous creature created specifically so you can do it easily and pat yourself on the back.
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[personal profile] arcanetrivia 2008-02-22 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
"His Royal Harryness"? ;)

[identity profile] cmwinters.livejournal.com 2008-02-22 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
Hahaha, that too, but in this context, "Harry, Ron & Hermione"

;)