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sistermagpie ([personal profile] sistermagpie) wrote2005-10-25 12:34 pm
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Names I could have been...

Happy birthday [livejournal.com profile] idlerat!!

This popped into my head on the way home the other day...does anybody else know what name they would have been called if they were the opposite sex, and if you do,

Do you think about it?

I asked my roommate--she would have been called Eric. She also knew her alternate girl name, Yvonne. Apparently she and her sisters were all potential Eric/Yvonnes, but all were girls and none looked like an Yvonne (also Mom couldn't decide on the correct pronunciation). Personally, I think one of her sisters could have been an Yvonne, on her and the other one it would be purely quirky.

But it was more interesting looking at her and imagining her alternate boy self, Eric. (Her father was also partial to Thor, and I've got to say she dodged a bullet there. Ethnic heritage aside...whoa. That's a lot to live up to.) The weird thing is, I can kind of see it--the Eric, that is, not the Thor. Now I can look at her and somehow imagine this boy version called Eric.

The one alternate girl name my mother once mentioned for me was Miranda, Mandy (not Randy) for short. I can't really see it--my roommate said (and I agree) she could see more as Amanda than Miranda. I was friends with a Miranda growing up. We called her neither Mandy nor Randy, but Mirn (sometimes Mirnie). So when I think of my name being Miranda, it's more like an odd thing, rather than a name I could have had.

If I was a boy I would have been Mark. I asked my mother this probably when I was a kid and it always stayed in my head. Mark somehow holds out all these tantalizing possibilities, you know? Maybe I still would have been friends with my roommate and we'd have been Eric and Mark. (Although maybe not, as we first met in college and Mark and Eric wouldn't have gone to Smith...)

Mark. It's not a name that really means anything to me beyond this. I had one in my class growing up about which I have no strong feelings. He played the saxophone. On the one hand the idea that this would have been my name had the chromosomes worked out just a little bit differently is a big deal. On the other hand...it's not. It's not my name, it's got no connection to me. But it does!

Anybody else ever ask your parents this question? I know [livejournal.com profile] adela711 had a name change soon after she was born. My father still calls my cousin Matthew because "he was supposed to be called that" even though the man's been Jeffrey for over 30 years. At the same time, I know why he does it. Because while he looks like a Jeff he could be a Matthew, you know? It does fit him. So as much as I want to just laugh at my father for doing this, there's this ghostly Matthew in my head too--and I wasn't even around when his name was being planned. I heard it once and thought, yes, that works.

So Brother Magpie would have been Mark. What would he have been like? Any one else ever think about this? Especially slashers? Is it more of a girl thing to ask this question and wonder about it, or do guys tend to know about this too?
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[identity profile] musesfool.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I would have been an Anthony, after my Uncle Anthony who died shortly before I was born. My parents didn't like any of them feminized versions of the name, or I might have been Antonia or Antoinette instead of Victoria.

My sister married a guy named Anthony, and it's also her son's name, so I'm kinda thankful, 'cause that's an awful lot of people with the same name in one family. *g*
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[personal profile] gramarye1971 2005-10-25 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I was going to ask my parents that question once, but the line of questioning became derailed when I found out where and how I'd been conceived. Let's just say that I was conceived on the trip they took to celebrate their eighth anniversary...and it wasn't in a bed. O_o;;

I haven't been overly keen to return to that topic lately.
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[identity profile] idlerat.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks, Magpie!

I was named after Jane Austen, and I was told that, if a boy, I'd have been named Wolfgang, after the other family hero. But they were joking. I think.

[identity profile] manynames.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
My mum never even considered I'd be anything other than a girl but my sister - Rachel - would have been David. I can't see that at all, though I can imagine what she'd have been like if she'd been male.

[identity profile] laurelwood.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I love my girl name (Laurel) but I would NOT have been satisfied with my boy name, which would have been Chad. My sister would have fared slightly better with Kenneth. My own children don't have much to say either way about their would-be boy names, Evan and Nathan. I don't even like the name Evan anymore, so I guess it's lucky I got a girl!

[identity profile] teratologist.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I would have been Eric. Which would have made things awkward with the two boys I later dated with variations of that name. Of course, my having been born male would also have made that awkward, given that neither of them are bisexual to my knowledge.

[identity profile] ptyx.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I love my RL name, and I also love the one my mother and my grandmother would have chosen if I were a boy. I think I share their tastes in names! I would have been Alexandre if I were a boy.

[identity profile] ex-ella-bane358.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
If I had been a boy, I would have been a Tim. I think about it sometimes, and while it's not the biggest reason I enjoy being a girl, I'm relieved to have been born one and escaped being called Timmy. :)

[identity profile] mahoni.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I would have been Bradley as a boy. They nearly named me Stephanie, but my older sister, who has a long name, had a hard time learning to spell her full name, so they decided to be kind and give me a name with far fewer letters. I found out about all of this when I was a kid, and was glad I hadn't ended up with either name, because at the time, the only Bradley I knew was weird and smelly, and all of the Stephanies I'd met were snotty brats. I have since met a Brad I liked; and I've met a Stephanie who, while still snotty, is nice enough. Neither name does much for me, still. Those first negative associations still cling.

[identity profile] accioslash.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually believe my boy name (Paul) would have been more appropriate than the name I actually have. Forty-two years later I still have to stop for a second when someone calls me by name. Something like, 'oh yeah, they're talking to me'. I never had any gender identity issues, but my brothers are Stephen and Michael and I got this over-used 50's name that no one ever uses anymore. Gah.

But then, I named my daughter Katherine (Katie) because it wasn't very common, and suddenly it's everywhere. And because we have such a common last name she is the fifth student at her college with the same first and last names. Two even have the same middle name.
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I really like Victoria, so that's nice you got that one.:-) I know what you mean about those family names where you end up with so many different people. I think my name is common in my family with different relatives having it (though not in my generation) and the male name that seemed to pop up alot was Edward. I also had two cousins named Chris who were around the same age, and one of them now has a son Christian.
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Um. I can see your point. Thanks mom and dad!
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Hope you're having a good day!

Wolfgang. Hmmm. That could be difficult. I do like Amadeus as a name, if it wasn't so associated with the movie. (I knew a guy named Amadeo in grad school.)
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
That's really interesting-that you can imagine what she'd be like as male. Probably some people you can do that with more than others.

I always wondered if I were a guy if I'd be more successful with women than I am with men.
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh. Chad. Yeah, that's an unfortunate name. It always sounds like you should be in a fraternity or working on Wall Street.

Your potential sons have fine names, though. Nathan and Evan sound especially nice together.
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL! Funny how those things work...
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, I must agree. Very good taste in names there. I love Alexandre. I like all variations of that name, really, especially for boys. (That is, I like Alexander better than Alexandra, though they're both fine.) One of my cousins has a daughter Alex (Alexandria, I think is her full name)
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah. I suspect it's very hard not to be Timmy when you're called Tim. The whole "trying to drop the 'y' part of my name" is probably something a lot of guys go through. I had a good friend in high school I just could not stop thinking of as Danny since I'd first met him as a kid. His guy friends all called him Dan. His family always called him Daniel. To this day I always have to make an effort to say Dan or Daniel--maybe it's his boyish face.
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
My roommate's middle name is Stephanie. She says she liked the name and was completely shocked when her parents told her it was actually hers.

I'm not very fond of either of those names, myself. Bradley just conjures up a potentially weird (in a bad way) boy. Stephanie is definitely a good name if you're snotty, I think.
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I like the name Paul. It's very soft-sounding...not soft like fluffy but like a bell with a deep sort of mournful ring.:-) Tom is another nicely soft sound, I think. I had a book when I was little where this witch turns a frog into a prince and he's very upset. She tries to get him excited about being a prince by giving him a name and he doesn't like any of them. He says "Tom" sounds like something falling on the grass at night. I always thought he was right and I liked that (my father and brother are both Toms, though I've never called my brother that).

I used to not like the name Michael as a kid but I've grown to really like it--and Stephen. I know several Katherines--I think Katie is my favorite shortened version of that name, though.

[identity profile] lilith-morgana.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm endlessly grateful that my dad didn't have the last word in the naming discussion when I was born. He wanted me to be a Rose-Mary or rather the Swedish Rose-Marie. When pronounced in Swedish this name a) sounds god-awful and b) is shortened to Rosa which is what you usually name cows over here and regardless of cool people like Rosa Luxemburg sharing this name I think it would have been crap in the playground, you know. My mother agreed and they took the middle road and named me Åsa Marie. I've never really liked my name, it has fascinating Norse origins but isn't very pretty. And it's a typical case of a name that was popular in the 50-70's but then went out of fashion.

The boy me would have been Anders or Johan, names I can see myself having but not really warming to. In conclusion I think it's safe to say that I would be slightly more pretentious than my parents if I ever had children. My sister claims that she fears the day a daughter of mine is born and named Christabel Freya Gertrude or some such combination. :)
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[identity profile] isiscolo.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I was almost Tamara, and if I had been a boy I would have been Tamar. But my parents heard another name shortly before I was born, and they liked that one better.
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee! I think that's part of the good thing about being a writer. You get to indulge your love for pretentious names (even on non-Mary Sue characters).

I used to really not like my name. I think the first thing that made me come to terms with it was a character in a book having it. The Little Women connection saved it. (My chemistry teacher in high school always called me by the wrong name, and all we could both figure is he kept associating me with the wrong sister in the book.)
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 06:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Tamar's pretty cool--I've heard that as a girl's name too.

[identity profile] ackonrad.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
My parents knew from the beginning that I was going to be a girl (don't ask me why and how they knew), so there was no male name picked for me. In my sister's case, it was the opposite - they expected a boy, and had prepared only the name Miroslav. When my sister was born a girl, they just took the female version of Miroslav and so she became Miroslava. ;)

Well, you know everything about my name change, so I won't bother you with the same story again. I just wanted to add that after that nurse told my parents they had to pick a name from the list for me, my mother wanted to call me Aglika. *shudders* I'm not very fond of my real name, but I'm glad that my father won that battle - my real name is definitely better than Aglika.

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