I think sometimes people also need to get that it's not only certain characters that people have that kind of fun with. Like I know a lot of people who started liking Draco because they enjoyed some of his lines in Hagrid's class, for instance. It's much the same thing. You know he's being mean to oh-so-nice (not really) Hagrid, but you still find it funny. Or you like Barty Crouch or crazy Bellatrix. Or you like it when Harry's being pissy. It's not like self-identified Ravenclaws or Slytherins are necessarily more mature than somebody who identifies as any other house, they're just getting their smirks a different way at times.
And of course with any house what's annoying isn't people liking the stuff but saying that since they like it it must be a sign of a noble character that can't be wrong. I mean...it's confusing because sometimes with any character you come on something that you really do take seriously and you really do think it's a serious thing, but that doesn't mean everything about the character is like that.
Anyway, I think JKR has this sort of affection for the adolescent gittishness of sporty British lads, or something, even as it's overlaid by the 'adult's' perception of ethical boundaries and the need for compassion and all that.
That's probably also why people roll their eyes when she lectures about bad boys etc. Obviously she loves them. She doesn't have to tell us that in interviews. It's just obviously her style of bad boys aren't Slytherins!
and most people (either in the books or in fandom) don't get that duality even though it's central to his nature. Either it's "Harry the victim" or "Harry the aggressor who needs to back the fuck down".
Please! Any kind of duality in a character seems to be a problem. I've seen people openly complain about just acknowledging that!
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Date: 2006-11-30 01:22 am (UTC)And of course with any house what's annoying isn't people liking the stuff but saying that since they like it it must be a sign of a noble character that can't be wrong. I mean...it's confusing because sometimes with any character you come on something that you really do take seriously and you really do think it's a serious thing, but that doesn't mean everything about the character is like that.
Anyway, I think JKR has this sort of affection for the adolescent gittishness of sporty British lads, or something, even as it's overlaid by the 'adult's' perception of ethical boundaries and the need for compassion and all that.
That's probably also why people roll their eyes when she lectures about bad boys etc. Obviously she loves them. She doesn't have to tell us that in interviews. It's just obviously her style of bad boys aren't Slytherins!
and most people (either in the books or in fandom) don't get that duality even though it's central to his nature. Either it's "Harry the victim" or "Harry the aggressor who needs to back the fuck down".
Please! Any kind of duality in a character seems to be a problem. I've seen people openly complain about just acknowledging that!