And of course I know she's a Hufflepuff, that's why the Slytherin was in quotes. She'd make a good one, actually, although I do think you could make a case for Slytherin!Tonks mostly because I did before JKR put her in Hufflepuff, but moving on. All I meant was that JKR has connected her to Slytherins emotionally by both connecting her sorrow to Merope's and paralleling her breakdown against Draco's. I mean, people from other house may not let go, but not to the extent that we've seen Slytherins not let go, meaning to the point of insanity (Mrs. Black) or death (Merope Gaunt). In fact, it's sorta the opposite; if Gryffindors have a moral beef with you, it makes letting go really easy for them (Percy, Sirius, Harry over Cho, pretty much the whole Weasley family except Molly over Percy). And with Sirius, I give you that he couldn't let go of the past, but not to the point where he lost magical ability/sanity/his life. I mean, he did die, but that was more because he was a dumbass in the situation than anything else. And I'd say that Ginny's sorta the same way; she never did let go of Harry, but it didn't really cripple her in the same way that Slytherins/the Blacks have let unrequited love cripple them. I mean, even Snape and Draco seem to be somewhat unhinged because of their rivalries and Snape's took place decades ago.
And no, I don't think JKR's saying that there's anything wrong with teenage lust, far from it, but I do think that she uses this book to dismantle Gryffindor morality in favor of Slytherin...I don't want to say hedonism. Maybe passion? and Remus/Tonks is a part of that. I think Harry's getting with Ginny actually is a bigger deal then you're making it and for fairly good reason; between guys it's sort of an unspoken rule; you don't get with the little sister. Ever. Whether the issue is moral for anyone else isn't the point, all that matters is that it's a moral conflict for Harry; the first time he has the feelings he does for Ginny, he tries to dismiss them because he automatically feels they're wrong. I'd say that Remus's reasoning about his being with Tonks being dangerous for both of them is the same in that Tonks has already put herself in danger and being with him won't change that; his other reasons are all silly and old-fashioned. But the point is, regardless of how 'wrong' getting with Ginny is, Harry does the Slytherin thing and takes what he wants anyway without Ron's approval and in the end is happier for it (sunlit days and all...defending them isn't something I like to do either). And is maybe right to do so because I think JKR also wants you to see that Ron's attempting to control Ginny is sexist and unfair even if it is pretty typical. And I think what's so humorous and ironic about the whole situation is that Ron/the twins don't mind seeing Harry with Ginny because, in their minds, he's safe and honorable and all that jazz, when the reality is, Harry's crush on Ginny is the most sexually-charged one we've seen yet and really makes Dean look like a total gentleman. Again, Gryffindor morality is completely dismantled, but I don't think it's meant to be seen as a bad thing because Ron's view of romance is pointed out (very kindly by Ginny :P) to be completely old-fashioned and unrealistic.
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Date: 2007-07-02 03:40 pm (UTC)And of course I know she's a Hufflepuff, that's why the Slytherin was in quotes. She'd make a good one, actually, although I do think you could make a case for Slytherin!Tonks mostly because I did before JKR put her in Hufflepuff, but moving on. All I meant was that JKR has connected her to Slytherins emotionally by both connecting her sorrow to Merope's and paralleling her breakdown against Draco's. I mean, people from other house may not let go, but not to the extent that we've seen Slytherins not let go, meaning to the point of insanity (Mrs. Black) or death (Merope Gaunt). In fact, it's sorta the opposite; if Gryffindors have a moral beef with you, it makes letting go really easy for them (Percy, Sirius, Harry over Cho, pretty much the whole Weasley family except Molly over Percy). And with Sirius, I give you that he couldn't let go of the past, but not to the point where he lost magical ability/sanity/his life. I mean, he did die, but that was more because he was a dumbass in the situation than anything else. And I'd say that Ginny's sorta the same way; she never did let go of Harry, but it didn't really cripple her in the same way that Slytherins/the Blacks have let unrequited love cripple them. I mean, even Snape and Draco seem to be somewhat unhinged because of their rivalries and Snape's took place decades ago.
And no, I don't think JKR's saying that there's anything wrong with teenage lust, far from it, but I do think that she uses this book to dismantle Gryffindor morality in favor of Slytherin...I don't want to say hedonism. Maybe passion? and Remus/Tonks is a part of that. I think Harry's getting with Ginny actually is a bigger deal then you're making it and for fairly good reason; between guys it's sort of an unspoken rule; you don't get with the little sister. Ever. Whether the issue is moral for anyone else isn't the point, all that matters is that it's a moral conflict for Harry; the first time he has the feelings he does for Ginny, he tries to dismiss them because he automatically feels they're wrong. I'd say that Remus's reasoning about his being with Tonks being dangerous for both of them is the same in that Tonks has already put herself in danger and being with him won't change that; his other reasons are all silly and old-fashioned. But the point is, regardless of how 'wrong' getting with Ginny is, Harry does the Slytherin thing and takes what he wants anyway without Ron's approval and in the end is happier for it (sunlit days and all...defending them isn't something I like to do either). And is maybe right to do so because I think JKR also wants you to see that Ron's attempting to control Ginny is sexist and unfair even if it is pretty typical. And I think what's so humorous and ironic about the whole situation is that Ron/the twins don't mind seeing Harry with Ginny because, in their minds, he's safe and honorable and all that jazz, when the reality is, Harry's crush on Ginny is the most sexually-charged one we've seen yet and really makes Dean look like a total gentleman. Again, Gryffindor morality is completely dismantled, but I don't think it's meant to be seen as a bad thing because Ron's view of romance is pointed out (very kindly by Ginny :P) to be completely old-fashioned and unrealistic.