Heh, I used to be a Spike fan, and I think Ishtar and Malafede were too... Clearly it's all because we're OMG IN LUV with hawt blondes!1111
Seriously, though ;) The BTVS fandom had it's problems like most - a lot of aggressive my-way-or-the-highway people, iirc; but there didn't seem to be this slavish devotion to the authors/text as there is here. Maybe because it as aimed at teens/adults as opposed to children? But yes, I remember arguing over and over again with people who were like: OMG Spike did such and such, he is so evil!! I don't mind people saying another character is evil. I think it's sad, if they write everyone off so easily, but hey, they might not do it in real life! BUT I do like logical arguments. So if Spike is evil for say, killing someone, I want to know what excuses Buffy, or Angel, or Giles, or Willow. Likewise in HP, if Draco is evil (hard to believe you can compare a two hundred year old vampire who's killed thousands and a 15 year old boy!) because he mocks people, I want to know what excuses Harry, or Sirius, or Ron, or Snape. Otherwise you're argument is inherently flawed, because it relies on the basest hypocrisy - the rules are different when they concern someone you like. And sadly, these rules came up fairly often in the texts for both BTVS and HP >:(
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Date: 2004-08-31 10:49 am (UTC)Clearly it's all because we're OMG IN LUV with hawt blondes!1111
Seriously, though ;)
The BTVS fandom had it's problems like most - a lot of aggressive my-way-or-the-highway people, iirc; but there didn't seem to be this slavish devotion to the authors/text as there is here. Maybe because it as aimed at teens/adults as opposed to children?
But yes, I remember arguing over and over again with people who were like: OMG Spike did such and such, he is so evil!!
I don't mind people saying another character is evil. I think it's sad, if they write everyone off so easily, but hey, they might not do it in real life!
BUT I do like logical arguments. So if Spike is evil for say, killing someone, I want to know what excuses Buffy, or Angel, or Giles, or Willow.
Likewise in HP, if Draco is evil (hard to believe you can compare a two hundred year old vampire who's killed thousands and a 15 year old boy!) because he mocks people, I want to know what excuses Harry, or Sirius, or Ron, or Snape.
Otherwise you're argument is inherently flawed, because it relies on the basest hypocrisy - the rules are different when they concern someone you like.
And sadly, these rules came up fairly often in the texts for both BTVS and HP >:(