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closet_geek!!!
Happily, she seems to have gotten at least one Very Thoughtful Present so far.
Ugh. What a day. The last of that hurricane flooded ALL the subways so none were running. There's something kind of weird about wandering around at 10:30 AM with everybody else who would be at work but we don't know how to get there. I took a bus eventually that got me there around noon. I could have got there quicker walking, but I had no intention of doing that. One weird thing is when I got home I had a card from the post office saying I got a package. In the "sender's name" place it said AUSTRALIA. Australia sent me a package? I'm completely mystified. Must go pick it up tomorrow.
I went over to TORC after that. My patience for rabid purists is getting really thin, which is sad because I was always all into being able to explain things rationally and talk to people with different ideas. But some people just get on your nerves. It made me think about things that really bother us in arguments. Like for me, I realize one thing that always drives me nuts is when people state things as facts when they're opinions, in such a way that you're supposed to just let them pass. For instance, this one poster always says things like, "There was no reason to move Shelob to ROTK and it's that change that destroys everything."
The annoying thing is this person will say this over and over, no matter how many times people (me) have explained how putting Shelob in TTT really is going to be difficult. It's not just a case of getting rid of Osgiliath (while of course putting back in Faramir's longer interrogation scene) and coming out even. Of course it *might* work--anything might work. But it drives me crazy when people throw out these premises--not even the argument they're making, but just things they're going to slip in along the way. Granted this is usually accompanied by snide remarks about people who don't agree, but I think what gets me is people slipping in false things as if they've been proven. I'm not sure why...maybe it's because I know how easily things become excepted facts just because they were said. The snide remarks are usually part of that anyway--"Of course Revisionists don't mind Shelob being moved because they [insert stupid reason that makes Revisionists look bad]."
Does anybody else have specific things people do that really get on your nerves in discussions/arguments/debates?
closet_geek!!! Happily, she seems to have gotten at least one Very Thoughtful Present so far.
Ugh. What a day. The last of that hurricane flooded ALL the subways so none were running. There's something kind of weird about wandering around at 10:30 AM with everybody else who would be at work but we don't know how to get there. I took a bus eventually that got me there around noon. I could have got there quicker walking, but I had no intention of doing that. One weird thing is when I got home I had a card from the post office saying I got a package. In the "sender's name" place it said AUSTRALIA. Australia sent me a package? I'm completely mystified. Must go pick it up tomorrow.
I went over to TORC after that. My patience for rabid purists is getting really thin, which is sad because I was always all into being able to explain things rationally and talk to people with different ideas. But some people just get on your nerves. It made me think about things that really bother us in arguments. Like for me, I realize one thing that always drives me nuts is when people state things as facts when they're opinions, in such a way that you're supposed to just let them pass. For instance, this one poster always says things like, "There was no reason to move Shelob to ROTK and it's that change that destroys everything."
The annoying thing is this person will say this over and over, no matter how many times people (me) have explained how putting Shelob in TTT really is going to be difficult. It's not just a case of getting rid of Osgiliath (while of course putting back in Faramir's longer interrogation scene) and coming out even. Of course it *might* work--anything might work. But it drives me crazy when people throw out these premises--not even the argument they're making, but just things they're going to slip in along the way. Granted this is usually accompanied by snide remarks about people who don't agree, but I think what gets me is people slipping in false things as if they've been proven. I'm not sure why...maybe it's because I know how easily things become excepted facts just because they were said. The snide remarks are usually part of that anyway--"Of course Revisionists don't mind Shelob being moved because they [insert stupid reason that makes Revisionists look bad]."
Does anybody else have specific things people do that really get on your nerves in discussions/arguments/debates?
