Man, I think they're sad too... and all of the post-OoTP S/R I've read has been painful, painful, PAINFUL, much moreso, actually, than most of the post-OoTP H/D I've read, which has mostly been angry and porny and not-going-anywhere-particularly-interesting. So. I resent fluffy!S/R (considering canon) representing the pairing same as I resent fluffy!H/D representing the pairing. It's just-- even H/R isn't fluffy. I don't know of any pairing in HP that's fluffy-- certainly not Harry/Ginny or Ron/Hermione or -any of them-, because people and their relationships are too complex to be called 'fluffy' in any realistic manner, though you could certainly call them amusing & rather darkly hilarious, I think.
Actually, a lot of the S/R fics -have- been like that-- extremely painful, nearly excruciatingly poignant, with all those wounds unhealed and so little time and so much bitterness between them. Yes. But they're beautiful that way-- and I believe they really love each other (shippiness aside), and that-- to me-- makes the difference. Because yes, they are half-broken (maybe more than half), but they need each other still, even if it doesn't help, even if it only hurts. The barriers may very well be between them, yes, especially since this is Remus we're talking about, but Sirius -knows- him, and that kind of knowledge doesn't go away. They seem to have the kind of bond that's larger than whatever they're currently going through-- they're just welded together through thick and thin, whether they like it or not, whether they're fucking or not, whether they -like- each other anymore or not. Maybe it's not easy-- of course it's not easy-- but Remus can still affect Sirius' behavior (i.e., Sirius defers to him), and they -are- living together not just for expediency, I presume. Even if the fire between them is low and leaves one feeling more damp than warm, the memories remain, and the need remains, even if they cannot fulfill it. That sort of aching need-- that is love, whether or not it -works- or -helps- you or means anything in the long term. That's why I love them; I love their need for each other, not so easily cast aside or forgotten.
Yes, they can -pretend- to hide behind politeness, or at least Remus might try, but Sirius-- he doesn't respond well to politeness or fakery, I don't think. Sirius may not be burning so bright in OoTP, but it does seem like he has some measure of his former rapport with Remus-- they do things in tandem, talk to Harry together, do various small gestures together. They aren't so separate as all that, even if emotionally they're miles apart, still-- but it hasn't been so long, and they haven't had so much -time- yet, and healing does take time. I wouldn't say it had to be hopeless. Remus has been hurt so much, and so has Sirius, and it would have taken a long long time for the trust to come back (and it would never have come back the same, of course), but-- who else do they really have? Eventually, both of them would have had to crack.
Anyway, I'm just talking about the emotions between them, that are bigger than their lives or whatever they have or don't have anymore. I mean, of course that's entirely subjective and up to the reader to see or not see, but. Harry & Draco have nothing to talk about too. Ron and Hermione have precious little to talk about. It's not about that, necessarily-- I think. I think they -could- comfort each other, just their bodies, their familiar faces, their shared history, their need for each other and the way the other -smells-, even, could be enough, if only for a night. They -are- intrinsically very comfortable with each other (to hug so soon after meeting)-- their bodies seem to recognize each other (I don't mean that sexually), after all that feral hunting and running together. They are packmates, literally-- dog and wolf-- and of course they're very loyal, more loyal, perhaps, than even Ron and Harry, having been through so much.
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Date: 2004-09-09 07:57 pm (UTC)Actually, a lot of the S/R fics -have- been like that-- extremely painful, nearly excruciatingly poignant, with all those wounds unhealed and so little time and so much bitterness between them. Yes. But they're beautiful that way-- and I believe they really love each other (shippiness aside), and that-- to me-- makes the difference. Because yes, they are half-broken (maybe more than half), but they need each other still, even if it doesn't help, even if it only hurts. The barriers may very well be between them, yes, especially since this is Remus we're talking about, but Sirius -knows- him, and that kind of knowledge doesn't go away. They seem to have the kind of bond that's larger than whatever they're currently going through-- they're just welded together through thick and thin, whether they like it or not, whether they're fucking or not, whether they -like- each other anymore or not. Maybe it's not easy-- of course it's not easy-- but Remus can still affect Sirius' behavior (i.e., Sirius defers to him), and they -are- living together not just for expediency, I presume. Even if the fire between them is low and leaves one feeling more damp than warm, the memories remain, and the need remains, even if they cannot fulfill it. That sort of aching need-- that is love, whether or not it -works- or -helps- you or means anything in the long term. That's why I love them; I love their need for each other, not so easily cast aside or forgotten.
Yes, they can -pretend- to hide behind politeness, or at least Remus might try, but Sirius-- he doesn't respond well to politeness or fakery, I don't think. Sirius may not be burning so bright in OoTP, but it does seem like he has some measure of his former rapport with Remus-- they do things in tandem, talk to Harry together, do various small gestures together. They aren't so separate as all that, even if emotionally they're miles apart, still-- but it hasn't been so long, and they haven't had so much -time- yet, and healing does take time. I wouldn't say it had to be hopeless. Remus has been hurt so much, and so has Sirius, and it would have taken a long long time for the trust to come back (and it would never have come back the same, of course), but-- who else do they really have? Eventually, both of them would have had to crack.
Anyway, I'm just talking about the emotions between them, that are bigger than their lives or whatever they have or don't have anymore. I mean, of course that's entirely subjective and up to the reader to see or not see, but. Harry & Draco have nothing to talk about too. Ron and Hermione have precious little to talk about. It's not about that, necessarily-- I think. I think they -could- comfort each other, just their bodies, their familiar faces, their shared history, their need for each other and the way the other -smells-, even, could be enough, if only for a night. They -are- intrinsically very comfortable with each other (to hug so soon after meeting)-- their bodies seem to recognize each other (I don't mean that sexually), after all that feral hunting and running together. They are packmates, literally-- dog and wolf-- and of course they're very loyal, more loyal, perhaps, than even Ron and Harry, having been through so much.