What kind of fights do people have about Snape, exactly?
Basically anything you can think of. Most heated ones definitely concern his behaviors and ability as a teacher (go to jail for abusing students vs an effective teacher), like the infamous "I see no difference" (totally sadistic cruel unforgivable vs funny no permanant damage), his motivations at the night of sheirking shack (murderous? petty revenge? saving Harry courageously? somehow people think it has to be one or another) and is his tantrum justified (sympathetic or deserving). The prank (Snape too knowsy too stupid thus deserves what he got vs Sirius's cruel carefully plan attempt murder), Sirius vs Snape (who's worse/better), should he be blamed for Crouch Sr and Jr's death (ESE!Snape sneaky schemes). Is he bias against Harry justified or totally out of line. Post Ootp the most heated one definitely is should Snape or Harry be held responsible for the occlumency lesson failure, which of course lead to whether Snape should be blame for Sirius death. This usually lead to nasty debate between Snape fans and Harry fans, as everyone tries to make sure it's more of the other characer's fault. (Snape being the adult so he should take all the blame vs Harry is being bratty and not trying to learn himself so it's useless anyways), is Snape's penseive deserves to be invaded by Harry (too stupid to leave the thing out, Harry has right to suspect Snape), Is Harry making Snape the scapegoat justified. How should Harry (and Neville) deals with Snape in the next two books (put Snape back to his place vs swollow his pride and show respect), who should apologize first, who should be the one to change first (this always get into what's morally right or wrong), how should be he be punished/not punish at the end of the series for a satisfactory ending, is he "redeemable"....and of course, the whole penseive bully/victim thing. The funny thing is, these debates comes in cycle, they die down then resurface every two weeks. The underscore is that, people get so caught up into the whole blaming thing, what's right moral and what's wrong, whose fault is it, who should held responsible, who should be blame and be punished, who is worst who is better...etc. Just too much that I end up gotten so sick of any type of these kind of arguments (ex: Hagrid as teacher, DD's actions toward Slytherin/sirius/Harry, Hermione's toward Rita/Umbridge/centeur) that I don't bash or defend any character anymore.
It just seems like Snape has so many different sides already it would be hard to polarize into: he's great! and he sucks!
You'd be surprised that it's not the case. In fact, the more we know about Snape the more controversy more argument more polar opinions he gets.
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Date: 2004-12-01 03:50 pm (UTC)Basically anything you can think of. Most heated ones definitely concern his behaviors and ability as a teacher (go to jail for abusing students vs an effective teacher), like the infamous "I see no difference" (totally sadistic cruel unforgivable vs funny no permanant damage), his motivations at the night of sheirking shack (murderous? petty revenge? saving Harry courageously? somehow people think it has to be one or another) and is his tantrum justified (sympathetic or deserving). The prank (Snape too knowsy too stupid thus deserves what he got vs Sirius's cruel carefully plan attempt murder), Sirius vs Snape (who's worse/better), should he be blamed for Crouch Sr and Jr's death (ESE!Snape sneaky schemes). Is he bias against Harry justified or totally out of line. Post Ootp the most heated one definitely is should Snape or Harry be held responsible for the occlumency lesson failure, which of course lead to whether Snape should be blame for Sirius death. This usually lead to nasty debate between Snape fans and Harry fans, as everyone tries to make sure it's more of the other characer's fault. (Snape being the adult so he should take all the blame vs Harry is being bratty and not trying to learn himself so it's useless anyways), is Snape's penseive deserves to be invaded by Harry (too stupid to leave the thing out, Harry has right to suspect Snape), Is Harry making Snape the scapegoat justified. How should Harry (and Neville) deals with Snape in the next two books (put Snape back to his place vs swollow his pride and show respect), who should apologize first, who should be the one to change first (this always get into what's morally right or wrong), how should be he be punished/not punish at the end of the series for a satisfactory ending, is he "redeemable"....and of course, the whole penseive bully/victim thing. The funny thing is, these debates comes in cycle, they die down then resurface every two weeks. The underscore is that, people get so caught up into the whole blaming thing, what's right moral and what's wrong, whose fault is it, who should held responsible, who should be blame and be punished, who is worst who is better...etc. Just too much that I end up gotten so sick of any type of these kind of arguments (ex: Hagrid as teacher, DD's actions toward Slytherin/sirius/Harry, Hermione's toward Rita/Umbridge/centeur) that I don't bash or defend any character anymore.
It just seems like Snape has so many different sides already it would be hard to polarize into: he's great! and he sucks!
You'd be surprised that it's not the case. In fact, the more we know about Snape the more controversy more argument more polar opinions he gets.