great post! i stopped reading the threads b/c it gets my bp up and i don't need that :-) i'm too busy not having as life to worry about that...
i really hope you were upset for reason #2, b/c getting upset by seeing h/c grouped with mpreg would be recreating the fanfic opposition on a third level, right??? :D in other words, the current ffnet songfic debate really bothers me, b/c it doesn't matter whether songfic's good or bad (and frankly, i have read good stuff, but it may be differnt when it's canon :-), when we start segregating among ourselves on pseudo-aesthetic reasons, it gets very problematic!
it essentially re-creates the anti-fanfic position exactly!!! i'm always amazed by the canonicity arguments b/c (and i'll get stoned for this one :-), to me fanfic is *all* about the what if! yes, there are missing scenes and character vignettes that try to simply recreate/fill in moments in canon, but for the most part (and the most creative part, i'd argue), we twist and turn and violate canon.
and it's odd to me that we do that and then turn around and claim canonicity as the prime, the only quality. i'm not saying that the source text do not provide a framework, a guideline, a blueprint, but we're not simply retelling, we're going someplace else...for me it's not just about ownership but about the old intention thing again.
it's like the author not only owns the world and the characters abut every potential event (ot their non-existence) within...oh, and that makes no sense, does it? *shutting up now*
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Date: 2005-04-28 09:00 pm (UTC)i really hope you were upset for reason #2, b/c getting upset by seeing h/c grouped with mpreg would be recreating the fanfic opposition on a third level, right??? :D in other words, the current ffnet songfic debate really bothers me, b/c it doesn't matter whether songfic's good or bad (and frankly, i have read good stuff, but it may be differnt when it's canon :-), when we start segregating among ourselves on pseudo-aesthetic reasons, it gets very problematic!
it essentially re-creates the anti-fanfic position exactly!!! i'm always amazed by the canonicity arguments b/c (and i'll get stoned for this one :-), to me fanfic is *all* about the what if! yes, there are missing scenes and character vignettes that try to simply recreate/fill in moments in canon, but for the most part (and the most creative part, i'd argue), we twist and turn and violate canon.
and it's odd to me that we do that and then turn around and claim canonicity as the prime, the only quality. i'm not saying that the source text do not provide a framework, a guideline, a blueprint, but we're not simply retelling, we're going someplace else...for me it's not just about ownership but about the old intention thing again.
it's like the author not only owns the world and the characters abut every potential event (ot their non-existence) within...oh, and that makes no sense, does it? *shutting up now*