i really hope you were upset for reason #2, b/c getting upset by seeing h/c grouped with mpreg would be recreating the fanfic opposition on a third level, right??? :D in other words, the current ffnet songfic debate really bothers me, b/c it doesn't matter whether songfic's good or bad (and frankly, i have read good stuff, but it may be differnt when it's canon :-), when we start segregating among ourselves on pseudo-aesthetic reasons, it gets very problematic!
He-yes, it would be recreating it! I can be surprised that somebody thinks that the idea of two men kissing is as bizarre as one man having a baby, but I really don't think mpreg is somehow bad in ways slash or h/c or not. In fact, mpreg makes perfect sense when you think about what a lot of people are probably getting out of slash. You want them to have a baby--poof! They have a baby!
to me fanfic is *all* about the what if! yes, there are missing scenes and character vignettes that try to simply recreate/fill in moments in canon, but for the most part (and the most creative part, i'd argue), we twist and turn and violate canon.
Yes, I know what you mean. To me it seems like canonicity or "IC" really just means the story gives us what we want. It's totally common, for instance, for people to completely disagree about a character being IC or not, and it always seems to me that IC just means the person has captured something you like in the character, even if it's not something featured usually in canon. Because we are all so flexible about accepting the strangest things, but we've all got those little relatively minor things we can't stand.
I think a big thing is that people don't really like to be reminded what they're reading isn't "real" as they read--in this case that means wanting to be able to tell yourself this is something that "really" happens to the characters as you read, but really it's not. But maybe what seems so dangerous about that is the fact that canon is equally fictional and open to mistakes and bad ideas from the author. The difference between reading a story where Sirius dies falling through the veil and one where Harry marries Snape is one that we kind of make up in our minds, because none of these people really exist in the real world.
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Date: 2005-04-29 08:21 am (UTC)He-yes, it would be recreating it! I can be surprised that somebody thinks that the idea of two men kissing is as bizarre as one man having a baby, but I really don't think mpreg is somehow bad in ways slash or h/c or not. In fact, mpreg makes perfect sense when you think about what a lot of people are probably getting out of slash. You want them to have a baby--poof! They have a baby!
to me fanfic is *all* about the what if! yes, there are missing scenes and character vignettes that try to simply recreate/fill in moments in canon, but for the most part (and the most creative part, i'd argue), we twist and turn and violate canon.
Yes, I know what you mean. To me it seems like canonicity or "IC" really just means the story gives us what we want. It's totally common, for instance, for people to completely disagree about a character being IC or not, and it always seems to me that IC just means the person has captured something you like in the character, even if it's not something featured usually in canon. Because we are all so flexible about accepting the strangest things, but we've all got those little relatively minor things we can't stand.
I think a big thing is that people don't really like to be reminded what they're reading isn't "real" as they read--in this case that means wanting to be able to tell yourself this is something that "really" happens to the characters as you read, but really it's not. But maybe what seems so dangerous about that is the fact that canon is equally fictional and open to mistakes and bad ideas from the author. The difference between reading a story where Sirius dies falling through the veil and one where Harry marries Snape is one that we kind of make up in our minds, because none of these people really exist in the real world.