This was right after the Best Film award. I liked PSH winning. I didn't really have any categories where I had only one thing I'd like to win. I just don't really think Crash is a good choice for Best Picture.
I'm glad Crash got made and I do think there's some great stuff in it. It's just...my roommate was saying that it's a movie that makes people in LA feel really good about themselves so it might win. I couldn't help but feel that way, even if it's not fair. Not that you couldn't probably say that about other movies making other people feel good!
Am I the only person who was disappointed in Brokeback Mountain as a film? I very much enjoyed Crash, but didn't feel any of the nominated films were really worthy of such high acclaim. So, in short-- feh.
I didn't hate Crash at all, I just felt Feh at its winning. I would have been more excited for Good Night and Good Luck (though I haven't seen that so it would be more just the idea of it I liked).
I agree with you. I felt Brokeback was way over-rated and the message rather, well, stillborn - as if somehow it's popularity had to do with the stifled nature of the relationship, a kind of backhand anti-gayness...
I do think they should've given Clooney the director nod... I mean, Christ, he's put enough work into things lately, and then with the BRAIN damage...
I set myself up to be disappointed with these things, since I tend to largely disagree with the Academy. I liked Stewart as a host; I like him as a person and I think he did the best he could with what was presented. I laughed at his jokes (especially the campaign propaganda bits).
What's your take on the Pimp song winning? I thought all three songs were astonishingly mediocre, but then I'm still pissed about the Belleville song not winning last year, or whenever that was (I've lost all sense of time).
The songs are always mediocre. I wonder if there was just more people who really wanted that one to win because it was different?
I did like the campaign ads, especially the ones about how Reese Witherspoon was the real American choice (as opposed to those random collections of letters!)
Ok, come on, why is everyone so down on Crash? I don't think it was as one-dimensional as everyone seems to be saying, nor do I think the message was as unsubtle, as I have yet to actually run into someone who can tell me exactly what it was that was beaten over his/her head for two hours. Yeah, it had that loud, wailing soundtrack, yeah, it was really dramatic, but I think that was the point; I think you were really supposed to look underneath the drama for the quieter point being made.
I mean, I've seen both Crash and Brokeback multiple times, and they both have that big Hollywood element to them, especially since Brokeback was actually changed a lot to make it easier for a mainstream audience to stomach (Jack lost his buckteeth, for one, and Ennis didn't completely abandon his kids). I have to admit, though, I didn't see Good Night so maybe it did deserve to win. But I'm really sick of all the whining about 'Crash beating out the SO MUCH BETTER Brokeback' because it's not like the later was any less a big Hollywood machine than the former.
I guess it could have been worse. I mean, considering all the people who were convinced that Brokeback Mountain was only nominated because of the politically correct gay conspiracy, I'm not going to put any tinfoil theories about why people voted out there. For all I know, it was a pretty close vote, and maybe the best picture winner was just dumb luck.
I still want to see BBM, mind. I haven't seen Crash either. Actually, I don't think I've seen any of them. Therefore, no judgement from me :)
Heh--I didn't think there was any big conspiracy. I wasn't really surprised either--it seems like Crash had become the favorite in the last few weeks. It's very LA with a lot of people involved with it, so yeah, I don't think it was a big political statement. I suspect people voted *for* Crash rather than *against* anything else.
Feh is right. I think they just missed the boat this year. Not on PSH, who was fantastic, but I am disappointed about BBM.
One of the many things Capote was about was the gulf of perception separating urban and rural America, and that may have been one of the many things at stake in the vote this year.
I am really dying to see Capote--and Good Night, Good Luck.
I was really glad PSH won. Really, there weren't too many categories (if any) where I had only one thing I would want to win. I thought George Clooney was a great speechmaker, though! He's pretty good at sort of standing up for Hollywood's wanting to talk about issues without slipping too far into self-congratulations. (I think one of Jon Stewart's best moments was after that Issue-montage when he said, "And none of those issues was ever a problem again.")
I haven't seen them yet (we get them tonight. *kicks stupid uk and its slowness at recieving everything* We also haven't had Junebug, or Hustle and Flow, so screw them and their slow production companies, they lose! Muhahaha! ;)
I haven't seen Munich (which looked a tad dull) or Good Night and Good Luck (actually, this year's selections seemed a lot more mainstream - I'm a huge film buff, at the cinema at least once a week; but seeing three of the year's nominees is unusual even for me.) Or A History of Violence, Syriana, or North Country (although I liked the sound of it, it was gone from the cinemas here after a week, so I presume it didn't do so well. Plus, Charlize already has an Oscar.)
I have seen Capote, and while I like PSH, more for his other work; I didn't really care for the film as a whole, so I'm glad it didn't win best, nor Catherine Keener (although I loved Being John Malkovich) for Best Supporting.
I guess Best Actor was inevitable, considering David S. isn't that well-known and Heath is still fairly young. (While I enjoyed all the performances in this film, I thought the buzz about him was a tiny bit over the top. He seemed to rely on 'sucking his teeth' or whatever it was he was doing with his mouth as a tic an awful lot.)
I also didn't like Walk the Line much, although Reese is pretty sweet, and she appears to have acting chops judging from Freeway. Besides, everyone else was too new or too old in terms of their length of fame (Felicity vs. Judi.)
I'm glad Cinderella Man sunk.
I'm also embarrassed on behalf of my country that Keira Knightley was ever nominated. Forgive us. We tried to make amends by shutting her out of the BAFTAs.
I'd have rather Matt Dillon won Best Supporting Actor, and BBM won Best Picture. Although failing that, Jake for BSA might have been nice. (I'm not a fan of his, personally, but I liked the job he did in that particular film.) Shutting out BBM seems harsh, and a bit of a 'statement'.
I kinda regret Clooney winning, too. I mean, I'm glad 'cause his politics sound good and all, but something about him rubs me the wrong way (his speech sounds obnoxious, but then it might have played better live) and it seems unfair that he's dominated the categories. Plus I've never seen him in anything particularly good.
I'm also embarrassed on behalf of my country that Keira Knightley was ever nominated
Hahaha. Well, I have better opinion of her than of Reese. I haven't seen Walk the Line yet, but from its trailer I didn't get an impression that Reese was much different in it from her Legally Blonde self? Maybe I am just extremely biased!
I haven't seen Crash, nor any of the nominated films apart from BBM (so I should just shut up now, but I won't ;-p). BBM was special to me because it made me feel a way I had never felt before watching all the other movies that had touched me. I felt 'cleansed', I loved the utter unpretentiousness of it, I loved its honesty. Its gay romance content was what attracted me to the theater, but not at all what made me love it. I don't know if it 'deserved' to win more than its competitors, I don't believe I would know even if I had watched all of them- but I feel it deserved to be called one of the best movie ever made :-)
Well, I am glad March of the Penguins won though! It was bloody good, bloody good!!!
It'll be really interesting to see how these movies hold up. I think that's one of the things about Crash was that I appreciated a lot in it, but despite everything it was saying it just didn't stay with me as much. Where as, I think BBM does work without any sort of agenda. I don't think there's anything particularly dated about BBM (besides the actual time it takes place). Sure in the future it might not be at all remarkable that it's about a gay couple, but I think it would still stand as the study of this gay couple.
I don't really care about the Oscars, but I heard that Brokeback Mountain won only three from eight nominations. *shrugs* To be honest, I expected something like that.
I haven't seen any of the movies nominated. Actually, I don't even know which movies were nominated. I'll be seeing BM this weekend, though.
Yeah, it got what...director, adapted screenplay and...score? Director's a big one, though. I haven't seen all the movies either, but I will probably see more once they're out on DVD.
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As much as I like Phillip Seymour Hoffman, I was really wanting Joaquin Phoenix to win. (watch me butcher all the names)
And Brokeback Mountain not getting best picture, when it got the director and the (adapted) screenplay... is kind of weird.
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But then...feh.
(And I have seen Crash.)
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I very much enjoyed Crash, but didn't feel any of the nominated films were really worthy of such high acclaim.
So, in short-- feh.
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terry gilliam is in israel, so i wasn't expecting much...
I set myself up to be disappointed with these things, since I tend to largely disagree with the Academy. I liked Stewart as a host; I like him as a person and I think he did the best he could with what was presented. I laughed at his jokes (especially the campaign propaganda bits).
What's your take on the Pimp song winning? I thought all three songs were astonishingly mediocre, but then I'm still pissed about the Belleville song not winning last year, or whenever that was (I've lost all sense of time).
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I did like the campaign ads, especially the ones about how Reese Witherspoon was the real American choice (as opposed to those random collections of letters!)
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come on now, whoop that trick!
I mean, I've seen both Crash and Brokeback multiple times, and they both have that big Hollywood element to them, especially since Brokeback was actually changed a lot to make it easier for a mainstream audience to stomach (Jack lost his buckteeth, for one, and Ennis didn't completely abandon his kids). I have to admit, though, I didn't see Good Night so maybe it did deserve to win. But I'm really sick of all the whining about 'Crash beating out the SO MUCH BETTER Brokeback' because it's not like the later was any less a big Hollywood machine than the former.
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Gosh... *puts head down and waits for bomb/disease pandemic/levitating frogmen*
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I still want to see BBM, mind. I haven't seen Crash either. Actually, I don't think I've seen any of them. Therefore, no judgement from me :)
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One of the many things Capote was about was the gulf of perception separating urban and rural America, and that may have been one of the many things at stake in the vote this year.
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I was really glad PSH won. Really, there weren't too many categories (if any) where I had only one thing I would want to win. I thought George Clooney was a great speechmaker, though! He's pretty good at sort of standing up for Hollywood's wanting to talk about issues without slipping too far into self-congratulations. (I think one of Jon Stewart's best moments was after that Issue-montage when he said, "And none of those issues was ever a problem again.")
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But your icon cheers me up.
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I haven't seen Munich (which looked a tad dull) or Good Night and Good Luck (actually, this year's selections seemed a lot more mainstream - I'm a huge film buff, at the cinema at least once a week; but seeing three of the year's nominees is unusual even for me.) Or A History of Violence, Syriana, or North Country (although I liked the sound of it, it was gone from the cinemas here after a week, so I presume it didn't do so well. Plus, Charlize already has an Oscar.)
I have seen Capote, and while I like PSH, more for his other work; I didn't really care for the film as a whole, so I'm glad it didn't win best, nor Catherine Keener (although I loved Being John Malkovich) for Best Supporting.
I guess Best Actor was inevitable, considering David S. isn't that well-known and Heath is still fairly young. (While I enjoyed all the performances in this film, I thought the buzz about him was a tiny bit over the top. He seemed to rely on 'sucking his teeth' or whatever it was he was doing with his mouth as a tic an awful lot.)
I also didn't like Walk the Line much, although Reese is pretty sweet, and she appears to have acting chops judging from Freeway. Besides, everyone else was too new or too old in terms of their length of fame (Felicity vs. Judi.)
I'm glad Cinderella Man sunk.
I'm also embarrassed on behalf of my country that Keira Knightley was ever nominated. Forgive us. We tried to make amends by shutting her out of the BAFTAs.
I'd have rather Matt Dillon won Best Supporting Actor, and BBM won Best Picture. Although failing that, Jake for BSA might have been nice. (I'm not a fan of his, personally, but I liked the job he did in that particular film.) Shutting out BBM seems harsh, and a bit of a 'statement'.
I kinda regret Clooney winning, too. I mean, I'm glad 'cause his politics sound good and all, but something about him rubs me the wrong way (his speech sounds obnoxious, but then it might have played better live) and it seems unfair that he's dominated the categories. Plus I've never seen him in anything particularly good.
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Hahaha. Well, I have better opinion of her than of Reese. I haven't seen Walk the Line yet, but from its trailer I didn't get an impression that Reese was much different in it from her Legally Blonde self? Maybe I am just extremely biased!
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Well, I am glad March of the Penguins won though! It was bloody good, bloody good!!!
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I haven't seen any of the movies nominated. Actually, I don't even know which movies were nominated. I'll be seeing BM this weekend, though.
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